Horse Training Tips – Stud

Dear Friend and Horseman,

Here it is, Springtime again. I both love and hate this time of year. I love it for the nice weather, spring flowers etc. I also hate it because this is the time of year when the 3 year-old stallions get zapped with their first big dose of testosterone. It turns some of them into holey terrors. It’s also the time of year when the mares start to cycle, driving the young stallions crazy. All this makes a trainer’s job more difficult, oftentimes unpleasant and sometimes down right dangerous. But that’s just part of the profession, you take the bad with the good.

If you have a stallion and you are inexperienced with studs, let me share with you my personal philosophy…

If your stallion ever gives you that “I’m going to get you” look, it would probably be wise to let a more experienced handler take over. No stud is worth getting hurt or killed over. Hardly anybody realizes it but many people have been injured by stallions. More people than you would ever imagine, have been maimed or killed.

Now, let me make something perfectly clear… Not all stallions are overly aggressive. In fact some of the best horses I've ever ridden were stallions. However, let me point out that they were the exception, not the rule.

If a stallion is to become a sire, he should be exceptional. To my way of thinking, the only horse that deserves to be a stud is one that possesses those exceptionally good qualities and consistently passes them on to his offspring.

On the other side of the coin, we have the problem stallions. These are the ones you need to watch out for. These are the ones that are overly aggressive and threaten to get you. This over-aggressiveness is sometimes a stallion's normal behavior. Sometimes the aggressiveness is man-made. Either way, it's dangerous.

Some owners who have a problem stallion, refuse to castrate them. These folks have not been viciously mauled… yet. Their time will come.

I have been attacked several times and luckily escaped without serious injury. But, I have personally witnessed people getting maimed by studs. One guy lost his ear and part of his shoulder muscle. Another guy was almost mauled to death before anyone could get the stud off him.

A trainer friend of mine came crawling to the show arena on his hands and knees, covered in blood. His cutting stallion had attacked and mauled him just a few minutes prior to the class. Pretty scary stuff.

Most people don’t have a clue how quickly a stallion can change from “passive” to “attacking”. Seldom do you have much warning. With experience, you can learn to read a stud and learn what they are thinking. But, the learning process can be a little risky.

I remember well the first time I was attacked by a stallion. I was 10 years old. I wanted a palomino stallion in the worst way and to my surprise my folks got me one. (In my parent's defense, I should tell you I had horses since I was 7 and was a heck of a good rider by the time I was 10. They just didn't realize the danger).

I can remember it like it was yesterday. It was Spring, a Friday and I was walking home from school. As I came down the driveway and into the barnyard, there was a cattle truck parked there at the loading chute. My folks were standing there talking to the driver of the truck. I approached and asked what was going on. With an enthusiastic smile on her face, my Mom said there was a surprise waiting for me in the barn.

Just then I heard the unmistakable scream of an excited stallion and I knew my dream horse was inside our barn.

I ran to the barn and went inside. Standing loose in the big stall was a beautiful palomino stallion with a white mane and tail. He was short, about 14.1 hands, but he was stout. He was upset because he could see the mares standing outside in the pasture and he wanted to get out there with them.

I should have known better than to go in his stall without haltering him first, but I went in to pet him anyway. As I walked up to pet his neck, he opened his mouth wide, like an alligator, and lightning-fast took hold of my shoulder. He picked me up, shook me like a rag doll, then threw me into the corner.

He wasn’t finished with me yet! I’m on the ground and here he comes again with his mouth wide open. Man, I was scared. I figured here he comes again and I’m a gonner. My hands and legs were flailing about trying to fend him off. Just by shear luck, I hit the stud in the eye just as he was coming in to bite me again. The poke in the eye startled him enough to give me time to get the heck out of there.

If you have children who love horses, pay close attention to this next part.

There I was, 10 years old, shirt all torn up and I'm hurt bad. What would you guess I did next? If you guessed I ran to my parents and showed them what had happened, you guessed wrong. If they knew the stud had attacked me, they would have gotten rid of him.

I was way more afraid of losing the horse than getting mauled again!

I stayed in the barn until the coast was clear, then ran to the house, cleaned myself up and went upstairs to my room before anyone suspected anything. While I was going up the stairs, my two younger sisters saw my injured shoulder and I had to bribe them to keep their mouth shut. (Actually, during my entire childhood, I had to continually bribe them to keep quiet about stuff I had done).

Next morning, I was up at dawn. I fed all the horses but not the stud. I had other plans for him and I had to do them before my parents came outside.

First thing I did was rope that rank little stud in the stall and snub him up real short to the corner post. I managed to get him saddled and bridled without getting bitten. The next part was the most dangerous. I had to figure out a way to get him out of the barn and get on him without being attacked.

The stud had that mean, “I’m going to get you” look in his eye, so I knew I didn’t dare untie and lead him. Instead, I climbed on his back first, gathered up the reins and then untied him from the safety of the saddle. Once he realized he was untied, he bogged his head and gave a couple of crow hops but nothing too bad.

I stayed on his back while opening the stall gate. Once we were outside, I headed him up the drive way and away we went. I figured I would tire him out by riding him to all the neighboring farms and ranches and show them my new stallion.

That little palomino son-of-a-gun was rank… and not very broke. For the first hour all he did was scream and run off with me. After about three hours though, he was dripping with sweat and starting to run out of steam. I just kept riding him and visiting all my friends in the area.

By the time we returned home, it was almost dark. And guess what? That little stud was too tired to do anything but hang his head and put one foot in front of the other. When we got to the barn, I fed him a double ration of hay and said good night.

The following morning, when I went out to feed, my little stallion had a different expression on his face. That mean “I’m going to get you” look was gone. He still was a handful to saddle and bridle. And he still tried to bite me, but the "viciousness" was no longer there.

I gave him another “all day” ride. And for the next two weeks, I rode him everyday before and after school. I rode him so much, that stud thought he had died and gone to hell. Within a month he was dog gentle.

I learned a lot about horse nature from that little stud. Most of all though, I learned that the easiest horses to get along with are the tired ones.

Take care and have fun training your horse.

Larry Trocha
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36 Comments on Horse Training Tips – Stud Leave a Comment

January 20, 2012

Nick Kupresin
2:01 pm #

Larry

Your absolutely right about cutting a rank stallion, i had one. He did make a great gelding.I have been riding young horses for thirty years and your never to old to learn different ways to train your horse, i really enjoy reading your articles.

Thanks
Nick Kupresin

January 5, 2012

Monica Collins
11:14 pm #

Hi larry its monica from Qld Australia Iam so glad to have read this news letter as I have just finished the 1st part of breaking my 5yr old gelg QH my only problem is he is too much horse 4 me so after reading that N/Letter I might try your tactick on him tire him from the ground 1st then ride Thanks heaps mon

January 6, 2012

LarryTrocha
4:32 am #

@Monica Collins: Hi Monica. I have a new training video coming out soon that shows how to start horses the safest way possible and get a lot of control (even on a stallion).

I'll announce when it's ready for purchase in my Horse Training Tips newsletter.

Keep in mind though, no matter what you do or how you do it, you can still get hurt when dealing with horses.

Take care,

Larry T.

December 17, 2011

Sven
1:43 pm #

thanks for share. thumbs up! sven

December 13, 2011

Mike
4:38 am #

Really thanks for the article, Larry. I learned many things by reading.

October 7, 2011

Tom Boyle
1:39 pm #

Larry,
Thanks for sending this out again. I think it should be send out to all. About every three months. I see so many people who do not understad a damm thig about conformation and a horses mind.
First of all, I think alot of the PP people thik its Natural to keep the horse a reaking stud or they are just plain horse stupid people that donnt realize theyre days are freaking numbered untill they get kicked , bit or put in the hospital.
With that said, if you horse is down hill ,crooked legged, has a bad dispostion why keep it a stud. You have to islolate them from other horses. They are hard to manage o keeping weight o them ad theyhave a far better life as a gelding, I here people say things like my boy! A stud is for one thing and one thig only. Making money. If its not makig money and doesnt have a impecable show record and oustanding conformation cutt it. I t will be happier as a gelding and you will not get hurt.
Oh well, I have one stud. I have the the Facility where he has a very large run and a stall. He has proven he is a Solid Horse in the reining arena. He is up hill and his conformation is awesome. His father was a awarded a Superior QH and its hard as heck to get him marketted and to make money with him. Studs require a lot of money to make them successful breeders. This horse is great in Every way possible and it's freakin unreal hard to make money in this markett. Even with people who have had sucess with this blood line of "Endeavor Doc." His Babbies produce in the arena in Reining and Reiing Cow and it's still hard to sell him.
Take it for what its worth. You better be a Dam Good Horseman because it takes one to train a stud, You never can trust them or turn your back on them .No matter how safe you feel. You will get hurt. Even when you think you have them dead broke and respectful, You will have vet bills becasue they can break down a pen and hurt your other horses becasue most people dont uderstand how to keep them secure. They will hurt themselfs if they get excited. You contstatnly have to handle and correct them with out making them resentful. If you think your good with a stud becase you have rode all of your life. ' Bull Shit". Unless your a professional and you can make money and have the money to markett the horse. Cutt it,

October 5, 2011

Krystal
4:20 pm #

Hi Larry,
Thanks for the newsletter. I have been waiting to see what you thought about stallions.
I have always wanted one and my TB mare had a colt foal by an Australian Stock Horse stallion. Unfortantly he can not be registered as an Australian Stock Horse stallion as his sire was not registered. He is now nine months old I can lead him, he meets me at the gate or walks up to me in the paddock, he ties up well and I have had a saddle on him and all he did was crow hop a little. I have asked my husband if I could keep him as a stud anyway as he shows quiet a bit of ability, (to campdraft). But hubby says no one day then not sure the next he always says a good stallion makes an exellant gelding.
After reading your letter I can see what he means.

Thanks for your helpful newsletters I love reciving them,
Krystal

October 3, 2011

Alanna
6:41 pm #

Thanks! am wondering how I can contact you via email.

September 6, 2011

Theresa Calabro
4:24 am #

Hi! Thanks so much for the great article. I too am a humbled stud owner. My boy is something else, I think my neighbors think his name starts with an "F" .. I realized I had no business owning a stallion, but I wasn't going to give up on him, especially because his behaviour was my fault. That's when I found your web site!! It's great to know I'm not alone when it comes to training issues. He is a wonderful horse when I'm riding him, but it takes a taser and a swat team to move him to his stallion run! I can hear (see) you rolling your eyes right now : ) I am so careful around him, and reading all of these comments has made me even more aware of how dangerous a stud can be. Mine has never attacked me, and I did take notice of your word "yet" in your story.
I have made huge progress with him on the ground, and just wanted to say thanks! Please let me know when you make a video about "how to get the circus music out of their heads!" … I swear that's what he hears.

August 28, 2011

Don
9:50 pm #

Thanks Larry,
Enjoyed reading the story again. You are absolutly correct about getting a stud cut that is aggresive. It is a hard decision for some when we are trying to continue a great blood line history. Even if the stud is not out of the current reining and cutting champions, but has the same great ones they have in their bloodlines you just never know what you have until the training is well underway for a few years. I have noticed watching the national cutting events it seems the finalists are usually studs or mares, or am I wrong?
Don

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