Horse Training Time Frame

HORSE TRAINING TIME FRAME
and mistakes owners make.

PLUS…

HOW TO HAVE LARRY TROCHA TRAIN YOUR HORSE
Even if you live hundreds of miles away.

Dear Friend and Horseman,

Larry Trocha here.

Well, I'm finally settled in at my new training facility at the Sliding J Ranch.

I gotta tell you, it is really nice!

Even when the weather is bad, this huge indoor arena is great to ride in.

Within hours of sending out the email announcing the move, I received several phone calls from people in the Sacramento area, wanting to reserve a spot for me to train their horse.

I also received a bunch of email from folks saying how they wish I lived closer to them so I could train their horse.

What these folks don't realize is that they don't need to live close to me to have me train their horse.

It's not uncommon for owners to send their horse to me even if they live a long ways away.

I've had training clients live as far away as Florida, Hawaii, Texas, Canada, Mexico and Europe.

These days its pretty commonplace for owners to send a horse whatever distance necessary in order to have it trained by a trainer they trust.

And, it's a lot easier to do it than you might think.

HERE'S HOW YOU GO ABOUT IT…

First, give me a call and make sure I have the room and time available to add your horse to my training schedule.

If I agree to take your horse, the next thing you need to do is make arrangements with a reputable horse hauler.

I highly recommend Greg Dickson of D2 Horse Transport (800-248-2645) or contact Gary Mitchell of www.HorseHauling.com to find a hauler for you.

I'm especially impressed with this transport company… www.thompsonhorsevanlines.ca

NOTE: To cross state lines, your horse will need a negative coggins test from your vet. The coggins papers must travel with the hauler.

The hauler will come to your house, load your horse and deliver him to my barn, safe and sound.

And the cost is usually LESS than you could do it yourself.

Once the horse arrives, I usually give him a day or two to settle in and then we begin the training.

Most of the horses in my barn are here to have a good handle put on them, get them working a cow or get them ready for the show pen in reining or cutting competition.

Those are the areas I specialize in and enjoy doing the most.

One of the most common questions I get from prospective clients is…

HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE?

Well, that depends on a number of factors.

The horse's previous training (or lack of it) will play a part in how quickly the horse will advance.

If the horse has a bunch of pre-existing problems or nasty habits, those will need to be worked out as we proceed with the training.

Horses also greatly vary in how "trainable" they are.

Some are easy to train… some are pretty tough.

As a rule of thumb… on the average riding horse… it takes approximately three months to put a good handle on him.

Now… by "good handle", I mean the horse will stop decent and rollback, do a good turn on his hocks, maybe even spin a little, pick up the correct leads and back-up straight.

He'll also do a controlled walk, trot and lope and do it with a LIGHT MOUTH and GOOD HEAD POSITION.

Be aware, with three months of training, the horse will be working pretty darn good and he'll have a good foundation on him but he sure won't be solid or ready to compete in a reining class.

To have a horse ready for competition, usually takes 12 months or more.

If the horse is a "natural", it may not take quite as long.

COW WORK TIME FRAME…

It's a little different with the cow work.

Here the horse's natural aptitude to work cattle plays a HUGE part in how well the training goes.

Hopefully, the horse has a lot of cow.

If he does, then nothing will be more fun for the horse than working cattle.

A lot of good training can be accomplished when working cattle without the horse even realizing he's being trained.

A cow is the best tool I know for helping a horse overcome problems and advance quickly.

However, a horse that doesn't have much cow will take much longer and will never be as good as a horse that is loaded with cow.

And if the horse doesn't have ANY cow, having a trainer work cattle on him is pretty much a waste of money.

Better off to just put a handle on the horse and call it good.

It takes about three months on cattle to get an idea of the horse's aptitude as a cutting or cow horse.

It takes six to eight months to know if he's a definite cutting prospect.

With most horses, six to eight months on cattle is enough for them to do a decent job at team penning, sorting and ranch cutting.

A "competition" cutting horse usually needs 12 to 18 months of concentrated training before he's ready to go to his first show.

And usually another six months of show experience to get solid.

HORSE TRAINING ISN'T ALWAYS PRETTY…

It's been my experience that most horse owners don't realize that training horses doesn't always go smoothly.

They think if the horse ever gets upset, resists or gets scared, the trainer must be doing something wrong.

THE REALITY IS…

There will be highs, lows and some rough spots along the way.

MOST of the time, the training will go smoothly and the horse will come alone fine.

However, there will be short periods of time when it's not so great.

SIDE NOTE: This is the biggest reason many owners don't have success training their own horse.

They hit a trouble-spot and quit, thinking they must be doing something wrong.

It doesn't occur to them, that "problems" are a natural part of horse training and they just need to work through it.

The BIGGEST PROBLEMS usually occur the FIRST MONTH.

Here's why…

When a horse first comes into "concentrated" training, the horse is usually NOT in the correct FRAME OF MIND to accept the training.

More than likely, the horse's previous training has been pretty inconsistent or very low-key.

He's really never been asked to do much… let alone do it lightly and respond immediately.

He's in the habit of being heavy, taking his sweet time responding or maybe not responding at all.

Nor does he know how to concentrate or how to search to find the release of pressure.

When this new training is introduced, most horses will initially RESIST it and want to ARGUE about it.

If the trainer hangs in there and insists the horse respond, some horses will then get really WORRIED about it.

So, that first month, its not uncommon for the horse to waffle back and forth between being teed-off and being scared.

For a lot of horses, this is normal.

A good trainer will know how to work through this without it getting out of hand.

And of course, it's this first month the owner wants to see some big progress. He wants to see results to justify the training fee he's paid.

In reality, seldom will there be any big results that first month.

The trainer is more concerned with getting the horse to LEARN HOW TO LEARN. (read this sentence again)

He knows until that is accomplished, RESULTS will not happen… at least not any good ones.

Once a foundation of "UNDERSTANDING" is established, the horse will settle in, have a good attitude and be willing to quietly learn.

In the second month of training, things will start to get good.

And its usually the third month when the real advances come.

Now, I realize not every horse owner can afford to have their horse trained by a professional trainer.

And many owners who have spare time available, prefer to have the satisfaction of training their horse themselves.

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Okay, that's all for now.

Take care,

Larry Trocha
Larry Trocha Training Stable
24846 N. Tully Road Acampo, CA 95220
www.HorseTrainingVideos.com
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9 Comments on Horse Training Time Frame Leave a Comment

December 6, 2011

Josy Ferguson
12:19 pm #

Dear Larry,

Just a couple questions/ comments about this article and the videos with it. I was wondering if you typically ride your horse's in training on a lunge line and if you have any saftey tips that goes along with. I have had a little experience riding on a lunge line while training colts and had a pretty good turn out just wondering if you always practice this or if it was just for the video.

December 6, 2011

Tom Boyle
12:04 am #

Larry,
The other sad thing about it is some horses flunk out. You can have 10 grand in training and the horse just hits a wall. It happened to me on a horse I had in reining training. Unfortunately, It takes time and a lot of money. I have seen people drop 20 k on a colt and 10 months or training just to have the horse flunk out. This leads me to the lesson I have learned. ( Most lessons worth learning usually cost money.)

Here it is. Buy a horse that has a Dam and Sire that has a proven track record in the event you want to show in. Multiple event horses are very few and far between. Horse like Smart Chick OLena and Smart Little Lena, Smart Whiskey Doc do not come along very often. But there are things you can do to help. Its called spend the money…..

And another mistake is someone who breeds a good stud to a very poor mare thinking the stud will compensate for the lack of good conformation in the mare. Sorry folks. Your wasting your money.

A good brood mare with a proven show record is hard to find or very expensive, Why? Because all the other breeders who have established themselves already have them or will pay the big bucks to have then in they're herd. These people know horses and a good mare gets sold fast.

So, word from the wise. I have spent the big bucks and lost out on horses that I have made purchase mistakes on. Do your home work, Buy at a Futurity sale or at a breeders sale. Call the AQHA , NRHA, NCHA or NRCHA and get the record on the Dam and the Sires performance record what you want to buy.
And then pray some jerk trainer doesn't take rock grinders and sours you horse or pushes the horse so bad it becomes resentful and mean. Buy insurance. Be prepared to have some huge vet bills. Not to mention the supplements, rehab therapy , chiropractor. Farrier, 12 TO 18 thousand for training and the cost associated with Shows, hauling, trainers show fees, cattle fees ect. The list goes on and on.
Thanks,
Tom

December 5, 2011

Joy
8:12 pm #

Just watched the vids of the paint Smoke. Nice looking horse really takes a nice long step in a groung covering walk. He is taking right to those turns on the fence for you. I'd send my mare to you in a heartbeat. She needs a tune up. I rode her five times this year due to breaking my ankle in Sept and getting back surgery in Dec 2010. I'm broke because of these surgerys lol. Thanks for your e-mails anyways. My mare would get a kick out of the cow work I bet. She is a Paso Fino I raised myself and ride western on and trails thanks again. Joy

September 10, 2011

Dawn Hatcher
5:17 am #

I re-read this to remind myself why when my little mare got back from her first 30 rides she was grouchy when I ask for more. I have a great little mare, and she got ridden about an hour a day every other day when she was started. I recently got her home and she is being ornery and wanting to "quit" on me after a short ride. I will be putting her back on a daily training course to get ready to go to the stock shows and I needed to regroup and remind myself about where she is. I read, listened and watched this morning for a training session. Thank you.

March 15, 2011

Leanne
8:29 am #

Hi Larry,

I've bought a few of your DVD's and really like them. I also subscribe to your newsletter and do appreciate your "grounded" honest comments on horse training issues. So many trainers try to make the process a mystery and keep knowledge from their clients.

Anyway, I have a question related to your comments on "how long it takes to train a horse". Specifically, you mention that it takes about 6 to 8 months on cattle to get a horse to do a decent job in sorting, penning and ranch cutting. Could you clarify if that means DAILY work on cattle and/or what type of cattle work? cutting, just chasing them around, i.e., sorting, etc.

Again, I appreciate your website and newsletter, keep up the good work! ;-)

cheers, Leanne

March 15, 2011

LarryTrocha
8:36 am #

@Leanne: Hi Leanne. I'm referring to a horse being worked on cattle 3 to 5 days per week.

The training techniques for ranch sorting or penning is pretty much the same as for cutting with only a few minor variations.

Larry T.

February 9, 2011

John
10:11 pm #

Thanks Larry ,

your tips are appreciated and much needed.i'd like to see more on how to get theyer
attention at the beginning of training.
thanks again ,jt

November 11, 2010

Dawn Coker
11:49 am #

Hi Larry

I would like you to train my 2 almost 3 yr old gelding. I have started him and he is coming along fine, I would like to see him get up under himself better and be lighter in the bridle.
I am not sure what discipline i want to show him in yet, but my
two top choices are western pleasure and reining. Maybe you will be able to tell me if he would be good at either of these when you ride him. Thanks Dawn

October 29, 2010

Joleen Smith
11:32 am #

Thank you Larry. You're right, as usual; distance should be no obstacle to training with the best. That was a good tip on the hauling expense and the link to them. I'll be saving this tip page & keep it in mind when I purchase my future finished reining horse. I'm a (mature) beginner but I will be horsing up in the near future. I (and my older horse) are learning the ropes together (not always the best way to get started). We are planning to be ready show season 2011. We've been at it one year now & it's been a fun challenge. I know it would be easier to rein with a finished horse to start with, but we're making steady progress and I'm pleased with us. A reining horse is serious financial and personal commitment. Even though I have a regular trainer, I realize I have to put the effort forth to become competitive – on whatever horse I have; there's no other way to get there. And I drive 175 miles roundtrip to ride with him once a week until I take my horse back this winter. He's "miles away from ordinary." Your daily tips perk me up and ground me. Thanks for that! Joleen

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