Choosing The Right Saddle

Larry Trocha
Cutting & reining trainer,
Larry Trocha

"Choosing the Right Saddle For Your Reining or Cutting Horse"

By Larry Trocha

A pro's advice about choosing a saddle that will help your performance.

Listen to this audio clip about saddle design, taken from one of Larry's videos.

  

Copyright © 2007-2011 Larry Trocha

I Want To Do Reining or Cutting. What Saddle Do You Recommend?

There are a lot of different brands of saddles available. Darn few of them are designed well for riding and training a performance horse.

For cutting and reining horse events, you definitely need a saddle that’s designed to help you "ride in balance and sit the stop."

First, you want a saddle that was designed and built specifically for reining or cutting. Both of these designs have their individual advantages but remember, just because the manufacturer "calls" it a reining saddle doesn’t mean it was designed "well" for reining.

The reason for this is that most saddle makers are craftsmen, not horsemen. Very few of them know how to ride a reining or cutting horse. It’s kind of like trying to design a winning race car without ever having been in a race.

Anyway, let’s get down to the nitty-gritty and talk about the different elements of a saddle and what to look for.

  • Seat: Remember, you want a saddle that will allow you to sit the stop. First of all the seat of the saddle should lay close to the horse’s back. The closer you can get to the horse the better. Anything more than a couple inches above the back is too high.

    Also, the lowest part of the seat should be near the "middle" of the seat. This low part is called the "pocket". If the pocket is too far back you’ll be forced against the cantle. Too far forward and you’ll slide up on the swells.

    On my best saddles, the "pocket" is a little bit farther back than the middle of the seat. I'd say about 2/3rds of the way back from the front.
  • Beware of too small a seat. You need enough room to slide forward and back a little. The average size woman usually needs a 16” to 16 ½” seat. The average man, 16” to 17”. Also, I personally like a seat that is built up in front. This gives a more secure ride. However, the pocket should still be near the middle of the seat.
  • Horn and swells: This is the main difference between a reining saddle and a cutting saddle. In reining your rein hand needs to be able to move unobstructed. Too high a horn or swells will get in the way. I’d want the horn no higher than 31/2”. And the swells no higher than 8”. I also like the horn to be small in diameter. In a cutting saddle, I like the swells and horn to be a little higher, around 81/2 or 9". And the horn to be tilted a little forward. Actually, here on the west coast, a lot of folks will show their reiners in a cutting saddle.
  • Stirrup Leathers: This is one of the most critical parts of the saddle, yet the most overlooked. You want the stirrup leathers hung far forward. Ideally, within a couple of inches right behind the swells.

    The reason is simple. To be able to stay balanced on a horse that stops and turns hard, you’ve got to sit down in the saddle. I mean way down. If the stirrup leathers are hung too far back, your feet will be behind your center of gravity and cause you to fall forward.

    The result will be a loss of your balance which causes the horse to come out of the stop. Also the stirrup leathers and fenders should be made of fairly thin, flexible leather. For precise leg cues, you don’t want a lot of bulk between your leg and the horse.
  • Cantle: Don’t buy one of those buckaroo saddles with an 6” high cantle. It’ll hit you in the back when you try to sit a hard stop. Quite a few of the "trail" saddles also have a steep, high cantle. Stay away from them. 31/2 inches high max.
  • Rigging: How your saddle is rigged is extremely important. And no compromise on rigging should ever be made when choosing a saddle. The saddle you want should have a Full-Double or 7/8th rigging.

    Some horses need a saddle with a 7/8 rigging. But never, ever buy a saddle that is ¾ or center-fire rigged. The saddle will slide too far forward on the horse's back.

    Look at the way a horse is built. The narrowest part of his underline is right behind the front legs (girth). This is where the cinch automatically wants to go.

    If a saddle with a 3/4 rigging is placed in the correct position on a horse's back, the position of the cinch will be back towards the horse's belly. It will just naturally migrate forward to the horse's girth area, taking the saddle forward with it.

    I also prefer the rigging Dee to be either in-skirt or dropped 3 or 4 inches below the swells (called a dropped rigging). This allows for the tree to pull down more evenly on the horse's back. Both will be less bulky and give you closer contact with your horse, too.
  • Tree: Make sure the tree fits your horse’s back. If it’s too narrow or too wide your horse won’t be comfortable. Double check to be sure there is enough clearance between the horse’s withers and the gullet (a minimum of 1”).

    A big problem with a lot of saddle trees, is that the bars don't have enough curve or bevel at the end of the bars to fit the horse's back. If your horse is a little sway-backed and the saddle tree is real straight, your horse is going to get a sore back.

    The reverse is also true. If you put a tree that has a lot of curve on a straight-backed horse, he's going to get sore. The bars must match the shape of the horses back or there will be problems.

When in doubt about a saddle, have a knowledgeable trainer take a look at how it fits your horse. His opinion might save you and your horse some grief.

To learn more about choosing the right saddle, watch the two video clips on the right of this page.

Good luck,
Larry Trocha
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41 Comments on Choosing The Right Saddle Leave a Comment

December 1, 2011

Beverly
12:50 am #

Hi,
What would you recommend for a 14 hand Halflinger. short backed, Flat back . I will be using him cutting if I can find a saddle to fit. What do you recommend? Makes? I have a 17 inch seat.

November 28, 2011

Dee Daniels
9:41 am #

Larry,

Can you please email me your cutting saddle recommendations?

Thanks,
Dee

November 17, 2011

Vikki
8:20 am #

Great advice as always, Larry.

The saddles you display look EXTREMELY well made and like they would last a lifetime. There are alot of western saddles out there nowadays with high price tags, big names and surprisingly poor crafstmanship.

No corners cut or compromises on these here … very nice :) And, good information regardless the western discipline you ride. Thanks for helping horses by telling people to take the time to fit their horse properly! I think many 'behaviorial' issues are actually bad fitting tack issues.

November 15, 2011

Angelika
8:04 pm #

Larry
Where the heck is the "show more" "button" ???? for your saddles :)

November 7, 2011

Jonathan Pelus
6:09 am #

HI Larry,

I just watched your videos on what to look for in a reining saddle and was suprised about all the small details that you need to pay attention to when looking for a quality reining saddle. I was wondering if you could please email me a list of saddle makers you recomend? I have been searching and have not come across a saddle that fits all the criteria that your video's talk about. Thanks!

October 19, 2011

Pam
6:17 pm #

I would also like a list of saddle companys that make good saddles. I like on the east coast and western saddle shops are unheard of…lol.. Mostly english tack shops. My saddle is rubbing my horse so I'm looking for a good saddle that wont rub
A list of what saddle makers you recommend would be greatly appreciated.

September 28, 2011

Gail Dingman
12:24 pm #

Hi Larry! I am in the process of purchasing a new saddle, watched your video & was quite surprised @ what I did not know after all the years of riding (too many to mention). Can u recommend any saddlemakers that I could check out?

September 7, 2011

Paula Roberts
3:17 pm #

I am intrigued. I bought and tried an Australian stock saddle (no horn) specifically for trail riding and competitive trail riding. I sat in it once and sold it. Coming from a dressage saddle that Aussie was just too much bulk. I did not like that I couldn't feel my horse with my leg. So I've come to terms with using my dressage saddle (synthetic Wintec 500). However, climbing up and down steep embankments in and out of the farm pond has educated me on the value of polleys/swells and cantles. I've been whining that what I really want is my dressage saddle with polleys and a higher cantle.

I just saw a reining saddle for the first time in a forum I frequent. It literally looks like the Western version of a close contact saddle. Am I on the right path? Can I find one without a horn, with metal stirrups, and narrower stirrup leathers?

Thanks
Paula

July 31, 2011

Nicole
9:48 pm #

Hi Larry,

My horse would be very grateful if you could email your list of recommended saddles. We are new together and I've been noticing a reluctance to be soft thru her body and to my aids, yet if I ride bareback in 5 min she loses the attitude and enjoys her job again:( I think I'd rather spend the money for a better fitting saddle than the chiropractic visits I see in our future right now! Thanks!

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