Comments on: Horse Training Tips – Lesson http://www.horsetrainingvideos.com Thu, 17 May 2012 13:13:42 -0400 hourly 1 By: Michelle Schmidt http://www.horsetrainingvideos.com/lesson.htm/comment-page-3#comment-33674 Michelle Schmidt Mon, 14 May 2012 18:05:52 +0000 http://localhost/dev.xintyr.net/sites/horsetrainingvideos1/?page_id=733#comment-33674 Hi Larry Just before I opened and read your thoughts on having a great horse to begin with, I was thinking of some colts I started for a friend. He'd asked me to start 5 colts he'd just gotten at the auction. Not a breed auction, but the local "down-economy" horse auction. I looked over the other horses he'd brought home, and saw a beautiful yearling paint filly. I told him I'd start his colts in exchange for the filly and her papers. Agreed. These colts were an eye opening experience. There was one A- student among them. The rest were low C's, a withdrawal, and an F. They each got the same amount of time spent on them. They each got essentially the same lessons, geared for each individual horse. What a CHORE to get them going. One had to be reintroduced to the equipment, the plan, and ME each and every day. He ended up breaking my arm when I got "just" too close and bent down. He apparently didn't recognize me as a human then. Lucky he didn't send me into the cheap seats! The filly? It was like she was "born broke." What a difference! She had no more handling than the other babies, but such a simple, excellent, tolerant, easy and uncomplicated mind to work with~! She was bred to do what she does. I agree completely w/you. Breeding makes an enormous difference! Hi Larry
Just before I opened and read your thoughts on having a great horse to begin with, I was thinking of some colts I started for a friend. He'd asked me to start 5 colts he'd just gotten at the auction. Not a breed auction, but the local "down-economy" horse auction. I looked over the other horses he'd brought home, and saw a beautiful yearling paint filly. I told him I'd start his colts in exchange for the filly and her papers. Agreed.
These colts were an eye opening experience. There was one A- student among them. The rest were low C's, a withdrawal, and an F. They each got the same amount of time spent on them. They each got essentially the same lessons, geared for each individual horse. What a CHORE to get them going. One had to be reintroduced to the equipment, the plan, and ME each and every day. He ended up breaking my arm when I got "just" too close and bent down. He apparently didn't recognize me as a human then. Lucky he didn't send me into the cheap seats!
The filly? It was like she was "born broke." What a difference! She had no more handling than the other babies, but such a simple, excellent, tolerant, easy and uncomplicated mind to work with~! She was bred to do what she does.
I agree completely w/you. Breeding makes an enormous difference!

]]> By: Cindy Durham http://www.horsetrainingvideos.com/lesson.htm/comment-page-3#comment-32581 Cindy Durham Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:40:50 +0000 http://localhost/dev.xintyr.net/sites/horsetrainingvideos1/?page_id=733#comment-32581 Hi Larry, I had posted a question earlier in the threads, and then went back and re-read and realized that it was 12 pages long so and answer is not likely. Sorry about that. BUT I was feeling under the weather last week and spent the whole day on the couch watching training video's. The one that I spent the most time on was your video on stopping. My horse has been ridden like a freight train his whole life (before I got him) and so at this point I'd be happy with any stop at all, much less a nice sliding stop. As it happens I took him out yesterday and we worked on two things, the "bump bump bump" when he tried to take off with me, and the light see-saw to get him to flex at the poll. It made a huge difference in the response I got from him. By time we got home he was more collected and flexed and responsive than he has ever been. That pressure and release is a wonderful thing! I happened to be riding with a neighbor whose horse spent his entire time fighting the bit and head in the air. I shared what I had learned from your video with her and by time we were home, her horse also was more responsive and fighting her a lot less. Thanks you so much for thar video!!! Cindy Hi Larry,
I had posted a question earlier in the threads, and then went back and re-read and realized that it was 12 pages long so and answer is not likely. Sorry about that.
BUT I was feeling under the weather last week and spent the whole day on the couch watching training video's. The one that I spent the most time on was your video on stopping. My horse has been ridden like a freight train his whole life (before I got him) and so at this point I'd be happy with any stop at all, much less a nice sliding stop.
As it happens I took him out yesterday and we worked on two things, the "bump bump bump" when he tried to take off with me, and the light see-saw to get him to flex at the poll. It made a huge difference in the response I got from him. By time we got home he was more collected and flexed and responsive than he has ever been. That pressure and release is a wonderful thing!
I happened to be riding with a neighbor whose horse spent his entire time fighting the bit and head in the air. I shared what I had learned from your video with her and by time we were home, her horse also was more responsive and fighting her a lot less.
Thanks you so much for thar video!!!
Cindy

]]> By: Sharron http://www.horsetrainingvideos.com/lesson.htm/comment-page-3#comment-32458 Sharron Sat, 21 Apr 2012 05:44:25 +0000 http://localhost/dev.xintyr.net/sites/horsetrainingvideos1/?page_id=733#comment-32458 Mr. Trocha, Sharron Royal here. I have enjoyed reading your news letters and training tips and the ones I have applied are working wonderfully. I am sorry that I am unable to purchase your videos. I'm sure you understand the current economy. I do have a question though. I have had my mare for three years now. She was eight when I got her and had been used only as a broodmare.(?) She is responding well even though I have only about 28 rides on her. She is one of those "good breed" horses you refered to in your last letter. I do question whether or not she was not ridden by someone with a heavy handed english style. {I'm not nocking that type of riding when done properly, but these people were wanna bees}. I say so because she nashes her teeth even though I'm not riding with a bit, she ducks her head like she is trying to grab the bit and jogs forward with the rear end while stubbing her toes. She does this leaving as well as returning. I have tried half halts, circling, changing direction but she is very nervous and really anxious about going. She does not shy, she has tried to run, and she will go up to anything she is afraid of. It's just the infernal jog. I ride with a bosal and have for many years she is not my first to train. But is my eldest, being eleven now. (I have been riding for over 50+ yrs). I have changed my training to a more gentler one and am still fighting with old habits. I'm afraid my hands might be a little harsh. Our last ride resulted in a roughing up of the jaw hairs. I must say, she is very responsive to leg cues but does get confused EASILY, so I slow down and repeat until she gets it. She is such a sweet horse and tries so hard, we just need to learn to drop and walk. Also I have health issues and cannot ride regularly thus the limited amount of rides. I ride primarily pleasure, but turning and stopping are uniquely important on that style. I would appreciate even a news letter tip. Thank you, and again Your tips prove worthy. And I tried quite a few, I like your methods best. Mr. Trocha,
Sharron Royal here. I have enjoyed reading your news letters and training tips and the ones I have applied are working wonderfully. I am sorry that I am unable to purchase your videos. I'm sure you understand the current economy.

I do have a question though. I have had my mare for three years now. She was eight when I got her and had been used only as a broodmare.(?) She is responding well even though I have only about 28 rides on her. She is one of those "good breed" horses you refered to in your last letter. I do question whether or not she was not ridden by someone with a heavy handed english style. {I'm not nocking that type of riding when done properly, but these people were wanna bees}. I say so because she nashes her teeth even though I'm not riding with a bit, she ducks her head like she is trying to grab the bit and jogs forward with the rear end while stubbing her toes. She does this leaving as well as returning. I have tried half halts, circling, changing direction but she is very nervous and really anxious about going. She does not shy, she has tried to run, and she will go up to anything she is afraid of. It's just the infernal jog. I ride with a bosal and have for many years she is not my first to train. But is my eldest, being eleven now.
(I have been riding for over 50+ yrs). I have changed my training to a more gentler one and am still fighting with old habits. I'm afraid my hands might be a little harsh. Our last ride resulted in a roughing up of the jaw hairs. I must say, she is very responsive to leg cues but does get confused EASILY, so I slow down and repeat until she gets it. She is such a sweet horse and tries so hard, we just need to learn to drop and walk.

Also I have health issues and cannot ride regularly thus the limited amount of rides.
I ride primarily pleasure, but turning and stopping are uniquely important on that style.
I would appreciate even a news letter tip.

Thank you, and again Your tips prove worthy. And I tried quite a few, I like your methods best.

]]> By: Cindy Durham http://www.horsetrainingvideos.com/lesson.htm/comment-page-3#comment-31345 Cindy Durham Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:34:33 +0000 http://localhost/dev.xintyr.net/sites/horsetrainingvideos1/?page_id=733#comment-31345 Larry, thank you so much for that story, it makes a lot of sense to me, especially since most of my horses are just plain old ranch horses, and I have issues with most of them. I have one in particular that I purchased from a "friend". He is actually a decent little horse, a paint gelding about 9 years old, but he can be a little "hot" especially under pressure. He has not ever bucked with me, but only because I have never got on him without roundpenning him first. What he does do, is tries to take off with me as soon as I start to get up in the saddle. I usually pull him in a circle till I can get my other foot in the stirrup, then I pull him a circle the other direction to get him to stand still. We usually do this 5 or six times until he calms down. He is bad about wanting to run through my hands, doesn't stop worth a darn, although I have been trying to use more body language and less mouth and it seems to help....a little. I also have gone back to basic ground work, getting him to walk in a round pen and let his air out instead of going full bore. I am trying to soften him up by having him give me his head (while on the ground) but seriously he "weighs" a ton. I pull gently till he gives a little then I release, but still it is not "soft" for sure. I have done some research on this gelding's former life and what I found out is that a kid was using him for team roping. He used him for this for a little while (not sure how long) until he started a bad habit of bucking (like crazy) on about the 7th or 8th steer. Once he started this habit, he did it every single time, so the kids just "got rid of him". Then he changed hands two more times before I got him. I know the guy I got him from rode him twice but mostly just let him sit in the pasture and get fat. Also he is terrified of a rope now. So my question is this, any advice on how I can bring this boy down a notch, besides just miles and miles? (which I do when ever I can) He does have some good qualities, responds well to leg cues, stamina for days, can cut a cow on his own like a pro....but I would really like to be able to ride him with out the constant fight to just relax. I would really appreciate any advice you have. Thanks Cindy Larry, thank you so much for that story, it makes a lot of sense to me, especially since most of my horses are just plain old ranch horses, and I have issues with most of them.

I have one in particular that I purchased from a "friend". He is actually a decent little horse, a paint gelding about 9 years old, but he can be a little "hot" especially under pressure. He has not ever bucked with me, but only because I have never got on him without roundpenning him first. What he does do, is tries to take off with me as soon as I start to get up in the saddle. I usually pull him in a circle till I can get my other foot in the stirrup, then I pull him a circle the other direction to get him to stand still. We usually do this 5 or six times until he calms down. He is bad about wanting to run through my hands, doesn't stop worth a darn, although I have been trying to use more body language and less mouth and it seems to help….a little. I also have gone back to basic ground work, getting him to walk in a round pen and let his air out instead of going full bore. I am trying to soften him up by having him give me his head (while on the ground) but seriously he "weighs" a ton. I pull gently till he gives a little then I release, but still it is not "soft" for sure.
I have done some research on this gelding's former life and what I found out is that a kid was using him for team roping. He used him for this for a little while (not sure how long) until he started a bad habit of bucking (like crazy) on about the 7th or 8th steer. Once he started this habit, he did it every single time, so the kids just "got rid of him". Then he changed hands two more times before I got him. I know the guy I got him from rode him twice but mostly just let him sit in the pasture and get fat. Also he is terrified of a rope now.
So my question is this, any advice on how I can bring this boy down a notch, besides just miles and miles? (which I do when ever I can) He does have some good qualities, responds well to leg cues, stamina for days, can cut a cow on his own like a pro….but I would really like to be able to ride him with out the constant fight to just relax.
I would really appreciate any advice you have.
Thanks
Cindy

]]> By: Tony Munoz http://www.horsetrainingvideos.com/lesson.htm/comment-page-3#comment-31059 Tony Munoz Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:53:47 +0000 http://localhost/dev.xintyr.net/sites/horsetrainingvideos1/?page_id=733#comment-31059 Well spoken I enjoy your writing and love the stories. Once I had a colt in a futurity trial and thought alot about my ability to get one to run. Across from my shedrow was a bumper pull trailer and they unloaded a little bitty colt. Embarrassed to say I prejudged everything. Then they warmed him up on the gravel road back and forth. "Man" I said to myself."They dont stand a chance". The colts name was Okey Dokey Fantasy. He went undefeated that year until he got beat in the All American. Humbly speaking mine became a claimer. No substitute for good blood. Well spoken I enjoy your writing and love the stories. Once I had a colt in a futurity trial and thought alot about my ability to get one to run. Across from my shedrow was a bumper pull trailer and they unloaded a little bitty colt. Embarrassed to say I prejudged everything. Then they warmed him up on the gravel road back and forth. "Man" I said to myself."They dont stand a chance". The colts name was Okey Dokey Fantasy. He went undefeated that year until he got beat in the All American. Humbly speaking mine became a claimer. No substitute for good blood.

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